Increasingly you! - How the language betrays the thinking
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DF, Berlin Center, Trend-theme: "Children get". There she was, that Alice Schwarzer , which campaigns for women for decades. From it came into this shallow talking shop, the only reasonable rates. For example: "Giving birth to the nation? I thought those days were actually over. "Or do you indicate that you are still not really about the" wonder child needs unwilling men. " Finally, we have made clear to them in recent years that they would kindly help with the education, changing diapers, sleepless nights, a provision of waiver career, money, etc., etc. And now the men are just going through my head and can be told: "Really? I have to do everything? Nope, then it better not. "
Well, others in the round had a different opinion and blew the famous "hunt" for the children and selfish objectors that have been identified as the culprit for new pension cuts. The time now is not so bad, because the subject is sucked out anyway just 4 weeks from the press and then thrown away. But there was a point in the discussion, which makes it affects:
That CSU politicians (Familienpolitiker!) Norbert Geis was on the good zorning Alice and barked out: "You were for abortion! 300 000 abortions - 300,000 missing us! "
In that moment was - for me, others may see it differently - well, that the speaker never went to children. Not for humans. Not to humanity. Solely by numbers, to a scaffold, a set of beliefs. Maybe even to the campaign or whatever. But not to humans. In those years, in that leaden, staid German period in which Alice Schwarzer stood up for the legalization of abortion were bleeding to death, every year hundreds of women at the battle of benches bunglers. To those who have contributed to the time vehemently for further criminalization lasting Drifting women were mainly their "values" is important. Nothing more. That's what I wanted at this point but he is remembered times. Because you have to go through those rates are not even politicians can.
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Great, now we go once rabbits and prepare the little ones as best as possible prior to crumbling schools, lack of apprenticeship places, overcrowded universities and unemployment. Has anyone schonmal thought that the bill rises to more children for pensions only if they have children then a well-paid work and pay social security contributions?
This is blatant what is being said Norbert Geis
thanks for the article
I have it also be seen. Horrible. Because I liked hard but fair on Wednesday evening - when it came to the same subject and where Mr. Geis rumsaß nagging - much better. Even as it was about numbers, but not predominantly. Without figures it is not a political discussion may lead ...
Could also be because we ourselves do not reproduce; o)
What was it like to hear on Tuesday at Pro Christ in a sermon by Ulrich Parzany:
"Who would have thought that the issue of the family would be one of the most important political issues of our time? Unfortunately, the reason is shameful. We state in Germany that not enough children are born to pay for one day, the pensions for the aging population. So it's really been a matter of money and not about the kids. "
Eddy: That's true! - Light: Yes, it has anyone ever thought of it - Ericht Kastner, the mid-20's of last century. Regarding the former youth unemployment, he writes in his poem "The giant toy"
You have set ourselves in the world.
Who did you authorize this?
We are not living right
and you ask: What now?
We already have a million!
We were diligent and docile.
And you? You send us, a minor,
for life in retirement.
I've unfortunately not seen ... thank you for telling it!
I think it's bad as you can play down the facts with words. There is a child being killed in the womb an "abortion" or worse "interruption" as if one could at some point, wenns is acceptable to continue again.
Many childless couples want a child to adopt them.
On the one hand, fought for the life of every premature baby with the most modern means available on the other hand, in Germany * in * 150,000 (reported) abortions. That's a whole big city! I say sometimes that it can go into one of Europe's richest countries in the vast majority of cases NOT matter that the mother of the child "do" can not do.
People such as Beethoven would have in today's society candidates for Abbey Bung.
http://www.abtreibung.de/inhalt.htm
R / \ LF
Whether you "for" or "against" abortion is a different issue, although I personally do have a clear attitude that women are here to decide to (and send as long as many of the militant abortion opponents their own sons to the army or her choice cross at Bush to make, I take them off and not that they are committed to "life"). But okay, that one can also see things differently. Only, I guess, as the above-mentioned Norbert Geis, one should see it now not really.
At the peak of impudence (in terms of mixing of the issues abortion and birth rates), however, one commentator has put it in the SVZ:
(Sorry, this item is no longer online and can only be viewed for a fee.)
I found the best contribution in this televised debate came from a family researcher, who was summoned as an expert and whose name has unfortunately omitted: "The Germans do not have children because they do not want kids." Point.
Mr. Geis certainly represents a rather conservative family picture, which is supported by the majority of young women and men no longer shared today. He does it but, I think, in a very honest way, without - ever to wear an ideological troop in front of him - as embarrassing the Black woman. The thoughts are free. The same goes for conservative views. They must not be allowed to share, but they also do not discriminate against a flat rate.
That the discussion is always about money quickly (Who pays the pensions still?) Is a simple reason, namely, the self-centeredness of today responsible for generations. The personal income, personal material wealth is the most important benchmark for many political decisions: "Fewer children? I do not mind the annoying anyway. Less pension? Insolence! "
Sometimes I think maybe it's not so bad when we die once ... especially when I listen to the sayings of such politicians.
The emancipation of women as a reason for the end of our society ... surreal.
Have a nice weekend and best wishes, kho
Gospodin: Just to your last sentence with the "self-centeredness of today's generation." The argument is often used, but (now I'm just the argument, not your attitude) totally moronic. For 1 there is not the slightest evidence that previous generations would be "selfless" was. Rather to the contrary. And secondly, one must finally understand that "non-child-have" absolutely nothing to do with "selfishness" has to do. I can show you lots of 10 million children, the "selfish" are - and 10 million people with children. That would get people's children for altruistic reasons, in my view, a fairy tale. There are simply different life plans and all have their place. So you have not stamp a form.
No, I think you have to stop just to look at this stupid rail as "guilty". The demographic situation being what it is. The real search for solutions has therefore nothing at all to do with this Gebärbeschuldigungen. One must wonder how to rebuild the economy that may exist with their own profiles which this country in times of globalization, etc. etc. etc. And should just stop whining and start thinking ...
Have just seen as Herbert's. The only interesting word contributions came from Alice Schwarzer and Geis turned in my eyes once more as a reactionary politician.
The world has changed, to allow safe not only in Germany and if we find that the discourse on reduced pensions and pure arithmetic, then we do everything wrong in my eyes! Allow me to point out an article I wrote a few days ago on the subject and hope I'm allowed to das. I absolutely believe that the question of integration with a lot of our subject
has to do and have.
http://www.finger.zeig.net/?p=2281
The fact is that the company drastically changed by the birth control options. It is also clear that this leads to problems.
The populist representation by individual politicians is unfortunate, but I very much hope that such a silly picture newspaper-oriented slogans encourage the general public anyway only to yawn.
What I do find really worth and what makes me really positive affect, is that Alice is mentioned black men in such a positive side and the view here seems so very balanced.
If something makes it the hope and joy: that German men are so open-minded and can be open. As long as this exists, so long as Germany bears the gentlemen Geis and Co.!